how to install this on a windows server

[Matt_Hall]

hi i would like to know how to install this on a windows server

[L. D. James]

hi i would like to know how to install this on a windows server

Download the package from the download section and follow the steps provided in the readm file.

-- L. James

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[Matt_Hall]

i looked at the steps i have no clue what its talking about and where i go do './configure'

[L. D. James]

i looked at the steps i have no clue what its talking about and where i go do './configure'

There isn't a "./configure" file or option in the Windows Version. That comes with the Linux package because there are a number of Linux flavors, the Linux administrator will best compile from the source.

-- L. James

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[Matt_Hall]

ok well i got the windows packege and fsd.exe does nothing run.bat does nothing service.bat tells me to run it as a admin so i do and it does nothing says fsd is not a valid .bat and unistall.bat does the same

[L. D. James]

ok well i got the windows packege and fsd.exe does nothing run.bat does nothing service.bat tells me to run it as a admin so i do and it does nothing says fsd is not a valid .bat and unistall.bat does the same

What does the readme file tell you to do?

-- L. James

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[Matt_Hall]

This is a beta version of FSFDT Windows FSD server

USAGE : FSD
/INSTALL : Install as Autostart Windows service
/UNINSTALL : Uninstall service
/RUN : Run Interactive


Once installed as service, you can control its start/stop
thru Administration tools/Services.

FSD looks and writes file in the directory where fsd.exe is,
so never separate directory between fsd.exe and config files.


C:\Users\\Downloads>fsd /Install
'fsd' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Users\\Downloads>pause
Press any key to continue . . .

but i dont understand what it means

[L. D. James]

This is a beta version of FSFDT Windows FSD server

USAGE : FSD
/INSTALL : Install as Autostart Windows service
/UNINSTALL : Uninstall service
/RUN : Run Interactive


Once installed as service, you can control its start/stop
thru Administration tools/Services.

FSD looks and writes file in the directory where fsd.exe is,
so never separate directory between fsd.exe and config files.

but i dont understand what it means

It’s telling you how to use the application (fsd.exe). You have the option to install it as a service, or run it directly or uninstall the service.

You’ll have to type in the command (fsd) with the desired parameter. For instance:

fsd /install

To get to a command prompt for Windows, you have to type cmd from the Start Menu. For Windows Vista and Windows 7 you have to right click on the cmd.exe that is found and run the cmd.exe as administrator.

For Windows Vista and Windows 7 most applications have to be run as administrator to have them installed properly.

-- L. James

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L. D. James
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[Matt_Hall]

wow im sorry i feel stupid now lol um one last question is there a way to tie in a voice server so that the atc and pilots can talk to each other on fsinn or squawk box and if yes how

ok i just tryed to do it in cmd as admin and it still says fsd /Install
'fsd' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

[infomania]

I want help also idk how to use it!!! :(:(:(:(

[L. D. James]

I want help also idk how to use it!!! :(:(:(:(

Hi, Chase. You'll have to start a thread on a subject of your interest. Look at the title and content of this subject. If you have something to add to this subject, please add it. But don't change it.

Please feel free to use the system's option to start a "New Thread". Try to explain your question as best you can. We'd be glad to help you.

-- L. James

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[L. D. James]

wow im sorry i feel stupid now lol um one last question is there a way to tie in a voice server so that the atc and pilots can talk to each other on fsinn or squawk box and if yes how

Yes. I’ll have to review and easy way of describing it.

ok i just tryed to do it in cmd as admin and it still says fsd /Install
'fsd' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

Are you in the area where you have opened the files? Type “dir” and look at the list of files in the directory where you’re at. Apparently you’re not and you won’t see the “fsd.exe”. You’ll have to be sure that you’re in the directly with the files from the package.

-- L. James

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ljames@apollo3.com
www.apollo3.com/~ljames

[Hurkulez]

The windows version use a service install.bat file.

For windows unzip the fsd1110.zip file, to a folder of the same name.

edit the conf file, motd file, and cert file

windows vista users right click service install.bat / run as admin

older windows just double click the service install bat.

[Matt_Hall]

hurk i tryed what u send and still it gives me a error

[Hurkulez]

Do you have the latest .net update for windows?

.NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1

Just updates windows to make sure, may have to do it twice...

[Matt_Hall]

yea im bringing my old linux comp back online so ill be using linux

[Hurkulez]

o, ok..............

[L. D. James]

hurk i tryed what u send and still it gives me a error

Matt. I know you're be moving over the Linux. I'm just curious. What was the results of my suggestion?

-- L. James

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[Matt_Hall]

i not moving anything now the linux computer is shot and i dont have the money to fix it and the windows one still isnt working so im not even going to bother anymore

[Hurkulez]

service.bat tells me to run it as a admin so i do and it does nothing says fsd is not a valid .bat and unistall.bat does the same

You said in an earlier post that the error message said it was not a valid bat file... Maybe the download was corrupt. Try redownloading it.

And to further explain the fsd.exe, service install.bat, and uninstall service.bat:

fsd.exe runs it in a commad wind that is up all the time, unless you collapse it to the task bar.

service install.bat - starts FSD Server, and makes it a registry entry so if the PC should shutdown it will auto start when windows starts. (No window - its running in the back ground.), (but you will see fsd.exe running in the process tree of task manager of windows)

uninstall service.bat - shuts down FSD Server, and removes the registry entry so it does not restart with windows.

**NOTE: When using the service install.bat in windows and the command window comes up. Its paused. Hit the space bar to continue launching the FSD Server.

Or you can open the .bat files with notepad and remove the pause line and then save it... Then you will never have to hit the space bar again.

fsd \install
pause <----- Remove that line in any of the bat files

Hope that helps.

[L. D. James]

You said in an earlier post that the error message said it was not a valid bat file... Maybe the download was corrupt. Try redownloading it.

And to further explain the fsd.exe, service install.bat, and uninstall service.bat:

fsd.exe runs it in a commad wind that is up all the time, unless you collapse it to the task bar.

service install.bat - starts FSD Server, and makes it a registry entry so if the PC should shutdown it will auto start when windows starts. (No window - its running in the back ground.), (but you will see fsd.exe running in the process tree of task manager of windows)

uninstall service.bat - shuts down FSD Server, and removes the registry entry so it does not restart with windows.

NOTE: When using the service install.bat in windows and the command window comes up. Its paused. Hit the space bar to continue launching the FSD Server. Or you can open the .bat files with notepad and remove the pause line and then save it... Then you will never have to hit the spacebar again.

Hope that helps.

Hi, Hurkulez. I'd be surprised if he has problems and follows the steps I gave him, which is the same steps and explanation that is associated with the readme file.

The readme file shows the syntax that the fsd.exe file takes. The sever would run just by running the fsd.exe file without any parameters. If you want is as a service just give it the /install argument.

If he types "fsd" and get the command not found error that he mentions, it's very simple that he's not in the right directory. A simple "dir" will verify that. The results should be to find the directory where he unzipped it to.

-- L. James

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L. D. James
ljames@apollo3.com
www.apollo3.com/~ljames

[Hurkulez]

He is running it on windows.

From the actual folder he unzipped it to:
Right click either the exe file or the bat file and run it as admin.
And if he is getting the same error. The file is corrupt.


OBTW: Do either of you have ventrilo (http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php)?
I would rather talk than type... :)

IP: 216.105.89.156
PORT: 3917

Maybe I can talk him thru it

[L. D. James]

He is running it on windows.

From the actual folder he unzipped it to:
Right click either the exe file or the bat file and run it as admin.
And if he is getting the same error. The file is corrupt.


OBTW: Do either of you have ventrilo?
I would rather talk than type... :)

Right. It's the Windows program that has .exe after them. He also specified Windows in the topic title. I told him to download the Windows version from the download section (which only has the Windows version installed).

I also suggested for him to type "cmd" in the Start Menu search area to find the "cmd.exe" program to run. I suggested that he right click on the "cmd.exe" program that's found to run the DOS prompt in Windows elevated mode.

I'm sure it's a simple matter that he didn't followup with a "cd" to change directory to where he unzipped the package. If he had typed "dir" and gave me a response it would have been a very simple matter to help him with navigating to the right Windows directory.

The reason I suggested running it from the DOS command prompt is because it would take a little more explaining to tell him how to give a parameter to the fsd.exe when right clicking on it.

While there are many ways, the method I gave him would have worked had he tested it.

-- L. James

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L. D. James
ljames@apollo3.com
www.apollo3.com/~ljames

[Hurkulez]

He is running windows there is no need to run any command other than double click the bat file... and hit the space bar when told to do so. "Press any key to continue"

And if you don't mind my asking. How long have you been flight simming L.D?

[L. D. James]

He is running windows there is no need to run any command other than double click the bat file... and hit the space bar when told to do so. "Press any key to continue"

I mention there are other methods of running the application that are different than what is provided in the readme. I had run it years ago on Windows and I often use the command prompt.

Because it had been a long time since I ran the program and knew it was simple, I gave him where to download the Windows working version. I figured it was very simple since I had done this for so many people in the past.

When didn't know where to start, I asked him what did the readme file say. So I gave him working information based on the readme file.

A quick glance at the zip file and I see the fsd.exe file. So I asked him to follow the steps in the readme before I had actually looked and saw there are batch files that also provides those steps. I don't see how it would hurt by following the steps provided in the readme. I also see potential in being at a dos prompt to see any errors that might come when executing the Windows command.

I don't see anything wrong with your variation. I also don't see anything wrong with mine. It appears that mine is consistent with the readme, so I just followed up with it, and hoped the user would give me feedback on whether it would work or not.

For some reason, he didn't test it. Had he tested it, he'd have an operating FSD server. I'm sure you can get him up with the server also.

If you think the method I provided wouldn't work, if you test it and give me the error I'd be glad to show you how you didn't do the step I mentioned and the steps mentioned in the readme file.

-- L. James

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L. D. James
ljames@apollo3.com
www.apollo3.com/~ljames

[Hurkulez]

The is an old saying "KISS" Keep It Simple Stupid".
So if there is a shorter easier way to do something then keep it simple...
No need for Running the cmd.exe, setting up parameters, etc...

OBTW: I am a 47 y/o retired Army Nurse.

I have been Flight simming since SUB Logic's ATP (1981)

And that was back when we was using CH Client

I still have a working copy of FS4, FS95, FS98, FS2000, and FS2002.

I beta tested FS2004/FS9 and FSX.

I have also beta tested FSHost, Squawkbox, IVAO

I also hosted and admin a server for OLD IVAO

So I somewhat know what I am talking About...

KISS,
Dan E. McMahan
US Army Retired

PS> Anyone needs help. Please PM me.

[L. D. James]

The is an old saying "KISS" Keep It Simple Stupid".

My sentiment exactly. That's why I simply gave the user the suggested Windows download. I asked him for the readme, which he gave me. The readme was quick simple. So I told him to follow the steps which makes a lot of since.

The very simple DOS Window will be easy to read and will stay there until it's closed.

The user typed in the very simple command from the readme. He got a very clear error, "command not found". The very simple recourse would have been to type "dir" to recognize the problem.

I understand something that you choose to do different is simpler for you. I applaud you for giving suggestions based on what is simple for you. I have to do the same.

The user responded to your suggestion and gave up. It's too bad he didn't test my before testing yours and giving up.

I don't see a problem with him testing both. But if he had followed the very simple steps I gave him, I believe he'd be up and running at this time.

By the way, had the readme suggested the batch files I would have went that direction. It was immediately very simple for me to just follow the instructions that were there. I didn't take the time to reinvent the wheel. I knew the readme would work because I had done it in the past.

Now since I've taken a lot of time and studied other details, I might consider the batch file. But I really see a lot of merit in the simplicity of understanding a DOS prompt.

In this case, you might be wrong to change. I don't see a problem with your different approach. But it would be a problem for me, a very old man, to change into something when the methods I've used for so many years have worked. Using something familiar is a way of having things simple.

By the way, I create a lot of batch files to do lots of chores. I often find it necessary to run the batch files from a DOS window so that I can catch glitches that happen from time to time during development.

-- L. James

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L. D. James
ljames@apollo3.com
www.apollo3.com/~ljames

[Matt_Hall]

omg before you two start killing each other neather one of your things worked and im not a computer tech so half the stuff your talking about im lost in i tryed to follow the readme and its talking about stupid linux crap.

[L. D. James]

omg before you two start killing each other neather one of your things worked and im not a computer tech so half the stuff your talking about im lost in i tryed to follow the readme and its talking about stupid linux crap.

Hi, Matt. We're not killing each other. We're having technical discussion and sharing notes.

By the way, the steps I gave you worked. For some reason you decided to stop. You went to a DOS prompt and typed in the command I gave you. You got a very appropriate response. The response was very clear and indicated to me the very next step to take.

A person doesn't have to be a computer guru to type in "dir" and press ENTER. I've been working with computer novice for many years. That's actually what I do for a living.

I understand that you changed your mind about installing the application. But your question was a good question. Anyone else that might be interest will benefit from the information provided.

Again, it would have only taken a few messages for you to have the server up and running. After getting the server up and running there would have then been some elements of configuring it based on the users' interest. Those steps would have required a bit of typing commands and discussion also.

Most of my suggestions for configurations would have been a DOS command such as "notepad file.txt". To me that's a very simple and easy way to edit files. Typing in the DOS command window gives the user the needed control and feedback that I need on my end for assisting the users. Windows tries to make things easy, but in many cases makes things harder. Most likely you wouldn't see the file extension trying to edit the files from Windows. When you save the file it might save it with an unexpected extension.

I believe the method that I gave you was easier. At least it was easier for me to give the steps and be able to easily follow any problems that might result.

I’m not trying to change Hurkulez’ method which works for him. I was just responding and explaining the thought that went into my presentation, which worked very well, even though I understand that you thought it didn’t. You didn’t realize the important significant of the responses you got when you typed in the commands.

Again, I understand that you’re not a computer tech. The readme file that was associated with the Windows package I asked you to download didn’t have anything to do with Linux. Neither was it crap.

Even though you didn’t understand (or as you say) know what the readme file was talking about, you executed the DOS command very well. I fully understood what was happening and the significant of the response that you got. Had you performed the next couple of commands the server would have been running, and at that point I would have given you a procedure to have it start automatically when you first start your computer. I believe after you started it a few times you’d it would have problems started making sense. But whether you were interested in some of the details or not, it would have been actually running.

By the way, Hurkulez. I gave it some thought about why the batch file probably failed. Windows has a way of trying to make things very simple and it probably made the user think he was in a folder with the files when he was actually in the zip package. Windows makes zip packages appear that way. Using the DOS command that I had suggested would have made the area much clearer.

Double clicking on the batch file from the zip folder opened up a single file. That’s most likely why the error message came in that case.

-- L. James

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[Hurkulez]

ROFL...
Ya its just a friendly discussion...

You mentioned Dos.
Do you remember the old Doss 6 days.
That's been awhile...

[L. D. James]

ROFL...
Ya its just a friendly discussion...

You mentioned Dos.
Do you remember the old Doss 6 days.
That's been awhile...

Yes. I recall when Apple users were referred to as brain dead with their GUI OS. I resisted it happening with the PC. I rarely ran Windows 3.1. I stayed with DOS until XP.

Those were the good ole days.

I must admit though. Windows XP brought a certain excitement to the computer environment with all its sounds and themes. Each version of Windows has brought even more, all the way up to Windows 7.

-- L. James

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[Hurkulez]

I agree Windows has came a long way since win3